Zazaca Öğren

Conversation with Hassan

A short question-and-answer conversation with Hassan about the villages of the Sivan tribe, Kasan/Kassau/Kaschan, gardens, highland life, and feuds he had witnessed.

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Conversation with Hassan

People mentioned

Hassan; Avdula Beg; Mistefa Ali; Ali Beg Aldun; Ahmed Beg.

Historical context

This conversation gives the most direct information about Hassan, Lerch's main Zaza source. Hassan's Sivan framework matches the region that appears in the 1841 Palu population register as a 42-village Sivan nahiye and was later attached to Genç and known as Servi. The working identification for Kasan/Kassau/Kaschan is today's Günkondu, listed as Kasan/Kasun in Sivan village lists.

Research note

The spelling Hassan/Hasan follows Lerch's form. Kasan/Günkondu, Horsik/Saklıca, Aldun/Alaaddin, and Hêmek/Hamek/Yeniler are supported by sources; Weşin, Talek, Kavare, and Gowman document additional local geography. The name Melken on Kiepert's map strengthens the Melêkang/Melekan = Sarıbudak identification.

Places mentioned

Russian original edition

Lerch, Peter Ivanovich. Izsledovaniia ob iranskikh kurdakh i ikh predkakh, severnykh khaldeiakh. Vol. 1. St. Petersburg: Imperial Academy of Sciences, 1856. Dialogue with Hassan, printed pp. 96-99.

Pages: Russian RGO viewer images 110-113; printed pp. 96-99.

Primary scan witness for Lerch's Zazaki transcription and Russian free translation.

German edition / reprint scan

Lerch, Peter. Forschungen über die Kurden und die iranischen Nordchaldäer. Abth. 1. St. Petersburg: Kaiserliche Akademie der Wissenschaften, 1857. Text 'Gespräch mit Hassan,' pp. 103-105.

Pages: Internet Archive scan pages around n146-n148; printed pp. 103-105.

Used as a second scan witness for the Zazaki transcription and for German comparison.

Bingöl University thesis transcription

Aslanoğulları, Mehmet. Lerch'in Zazaki Derlemelerinin Çevrimyazımı ve Türlerine Göre Sözcüklerin Tahlili. Master's thesis, Bingöl Üniversitesi, 2014.

Pages: PDF pp. 44-46; heading 'Diyalog.'

Secondary transcription witness used during alignment and review. The transcription text is cited here but is not reproduced in the Interlinear view.