A short question-and-answer conversation with Hassan about the villages of the Sivan tribe, Kasan/Kassau/Kaschan, gardens, highland life, and feuds he had witnessed.
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Hassan; Avdula Beg; Mistefa Ali; Ali Beg Aldun; Ahmed Beg.
This conversation gives the most direct information about Hassan, Lerch's main Zaza source. Hassan's Sivan framework matches the region that appears in the 1841 Palu population register as a 42-village Sivan nahiye and was later attached to Genç and known as Servi. The working identification for Kasan/Kassau/Kaschan is today's Günkondu, listed as Kasan/Kasun in Sivan village lists.
The spelling Hassan/Hasan follows Lerch's form. Kasan/Günkondu, Horsik/Saklıca, Aldun/Alaaddin, and Hêmek/Hamek/Yeniler are supported by sources; Weşin, Talek, Kavare, and Gowman document additional local geography. The name Melken on Kiepert's map strengthens the Melêkang/Melekan = Sarıbudak identification.
The German reading text follows Lerch’s German translation (1857, printed pp. 58–61; local PDF pp. 102–105), with modern wording. Its abbreviated village list is expanded from the printed Zazaki, using the simplified name forms of the existing readings. The list names 33 villages despite the preceding answer of 34. For housing, the German print says “hut” and “four or five houses”; the English and Turkish readings interpret the quantity as rooms and render hut as house. At the summer camp, the German print makes staying in huts conditional on their presence. It places the return in the first autumn month. The German account of participation in the feuds and its final wording “mag (also) nicht sprechen” are also preserved rather than silently aligned with the other readings.
Lerch, Peter Ivanovich. Izsledovaniia ob iranskikh kurdakh i ikh predkakh, severnykh khaldeiakh. Vol. 1. St. Petersburg: Imperial Academy of Sciences, 1856. Dialogue with Hassan, printed pp. 96-99.
Pages: Russian RGO viewer images 110-113; printed pp. 96-99.
Primary scan witness for Lerch's Zazaki transcription and Russian free translation.
Lerch, Peter. Forschungen über die Kurden und die iranischen Nordchaldäer. Abth. 1. St. Petersburg: Kaiserliche Akademie der Wissenschaften, 1857. Text 'Gespräch mit Hassan,' pp. 103-105.
Pages: Internet Archive scan pages around n146-n148; printed pp. 103-105.
Used as a second scan witness for the Zazaki transcription and for German comparison.
Aslanoğulları, Mehmet. Lerch'in Zazaki Derlemelerinin Çevrimyazımı ve Türlerine Göre Sözcüklerin Tahlili. Master's thesis, Bingöl Üniversitesi, 2014.
Pages: PDF pp. 44-46; heading 'Diyalog.'
Secondary transcription witness used during alignment and review. The transcription text is cited here but is not reproduced in the Interlinear view.